So we’ve jumped right in and have been looking at French real estate. And the biggest difference by far (versus looking at real estate in the U.S.), is that in France, you work with several different real estate agencies.
The agency that lists the house? They are the only ones who can show you the house or sell you the house. So if you like five different houses that are listed with five different agencies, that means you’re going to be working with five different agencies.
So far, I don’t mind working with several agencies — it makes the realtor-buyer relationship feel much less intense. But it’s also a bit strange because it feels like no one is helping you get the best price. The agency that’s showing you the house, helped set the price for the house, and they want the house to sell for the highest possible price.
There are lots of agencies in our town — maybe ten? I’m not totally sure. Some seem to have specialties — like they might focus only on rentals — but most seem to be generalists. We have worked the most closely with Hexagone, Orpi, and Century 21. They all have different websites and I find the easiest one to search is Hexagone.
Sometimes one house will be listed with several agencies, but typically it seems to be more of an exclusive listing with one agency thing.
The issue is that it feels like your ideal house could be waiting out there, and you just don’t know it because you haven’t happened upon the right agency who has the listing.
We have visited five houses so far, and we have appointments to see more tomorrow. We have done the searching — both online and in the agency offices — and chosen the houses we want to see. But we’ve also let the agents know that if there’s a house they think we would like, to let us know.
When we first started looking, we were bookmarking houses both in town, and within 15 minutes of town — which is more rural and part of the countryside. The house we used to rent when we lived here before was about 10 minutes from town, and the house we own here (the one we’re holding on to for now and not in a hurry to do anything with), is about 15 minutes from town. So we’re comfortable with the idea of a country house and like imagining a big yard where the kids can run.
But as we’ve been looking, we’ve really narrowed our focus to just houses in town. The town is really walkable, and we love the idea of being less car-dependent for daily tasks, and the idea that the kids can walk to school, to the library, to the bakery, to their music lessons, to the pool, etc..
We’re also more realistic about the time we have available to spend working on a big yard or garden. It’s not something we are going to spend a ton of time on right now. Instead of gardening and yard care, while we’re here, we’d rather use our time and resources for travel.
We’re also feeling like if we are craving the countryside — and want to plant some fruit trees or that sort of thing — we can always do that at the property we already own.
I know the houses in town aren’t as picturesque as the old stone country homes with the colorful shutters and ivy crawling up the walls, but I think the in-town houses would fit our life here much better. And I still love how they look!
For a budget, there’s a wide range of options out there. For a country house that’s in need of a major renovation, you can find tons of options under 100,000 euros. If you want a country house that’s already renovated, it will be more like 225,000 euros. If you want a full-on estate with a grand house and full barns or maybe stables for horses, there are gorgeous options in the 500,000 euros range.
For houses in town, the prices are approximately 30% higher, and of course, come with less square footage and much smaller yards. To our eyes, coming from the Bay Area, these prices seem very reasonable — even with the exchange rate. I should also mention, we’ve only looked at real estate in Normandy, so I can’t speak to prices in Paris or the South of France or anywhere else.
We’ve also let the agents know that if the house requires a lot of work, then we’d prefer to rent another house to live in while the work is being done. Monthly rent here, for a big enough house to fit us, will run about 600 euros each month. So that would be an extra expense, but would also make the renovations much more efficient. (By the way, when I talk about a house needing work, it’s more along the lines of paint and an updated kitchen — not full architectural plans like our cottage requires.)
One of the houses we’re looking at seriously is completely redone, and done really tastefully too. It would be more expensive than other options, but we could move right in. The house is dated to 1700 and is on a super charming street. Our concern is that it’s a little too small for our family. We could definitely make it work, but if the 3 older kids joined us (like for Christmas), or we had guests, it would be tight. It has one full bathroom, and one half bathroom, and there’s not really space to add another one. So that’s also a concern.
Another house we love is newer — it still looks like on old stone house, but was built after the war in 1945. It’s a grand old house right in the center of town, but, the first floor of the house is currently a veterinarian clinic, and would need to be reconverted to a home. The perks are the location and the size — there’s tons of space! And it’s really fun to imagine what we could do with it. Oh! And it has a parking space, which is unusual for in-town houses.
The third house we’re looking at seriously, is across from one of the cathedrals in town and dates to the 1800s. Though it’s been lived in until just recently, it’s been mostly neglected, so this would be a big project house, but the price is excellent. It has a really lovely staircase and it’s bigger than the first house I mentioned, but smaller than the veterinarian house. There’s also a separate building on the property that could be a studio or guest house — or even a full apartment rental. But again, that would be a big project.
We’re still looking at additional houses, but once we’ve narrowed it down, the next steps for us are:
1- Talk to a Conseillère. This is basically a mortgage broker. They gather all your financial info, then talk to all the banks and find the best deal for you. We don’t know much about this part of the process yet (because we paid for our other house in cash). The real estate agencies we’re working with all have favorite conseillères to recommend.
Depending on the house we choose, we’re not sure how we want to finance it, but we do want to learn about options for getting a loan for a potential renovation. One interesting fact: We’ve been told that there’s a cap of 1.8% interest on mortgages.
2- Have a contractor look at the house or houses we’re most interested in and give us a consultation.
3- Make a formal offer. If the offer is accepted, we have 10 days to change our mind, no questions asked. After the 10 days, papers are signed, and it’s under contract. We’re told the whole process from offer to closing takes 3 months. And that you really can’t speed it up — it’s 3 months minimum.
Three months means that if we choose a house this week (which would be fast!), it still won’t be ours until mid-December. If the house is ready to live in, we could be there for Christmas. If the house needs work, then we wouldn’t move in for an additional several months.
And of course, we don’t have to buy a house at all. We could also find a long term rental — a non-furnished option because we have all our stuff arriving by container ship at some point. : ) But our instinct at the moment is to buy in town and make it ours.
That’s the report for now. I’ll definitely keep you updated as we continue this adventure!
36 thoughts on “Real Estate in France”
Fascinating details and decisions. A purchase sounds like you plan to be in France long-term! Do you have a timeline in mind? (Escape the 2020 election for sure ;-)
The interest rate on mortgages is capped at 1.8%?!?!?!? Ahh, how amazing! Way to go, France!
Its not à legal cap- just the way the market is at the moment …and the rate decrease came hand in hand with price increases..
Fun decisions! I wonder if the small, finished house might be best — then you could focus on finishing your other house for guests or extended family and not have to live in the middle of a renovation or have to organize one while living in a rental. Lots of exciting options. I’m eager to hear more — it’s fascinating to learn the differences in buying property.
Bonjour from Fontainebleau! I would recommend you to have a look at Le bon coin immobilier 14 website where you can see a listing of houses on sale from professionals (real estates use it) and private owners who don’t want to go through an agency.
That way, it may give you a larger view on the local offer.
Good luck for your research!
I beg your pardon, the département is 61 not 14!
I am an addict of the real-estate sites in France (Le Bon Coin, Bien Ici, and Seloger are my daily visits) so of course I took a look around your area. The prices are so much lower than my usual searches in the south of France! And as a New Yorker, even the south prices seem reasonable, so the prices in your area seem like a real steal! I will be following with great interest, and of course your description of your three choices (so far) had me remembering your HHInternational episode. Such fun! Thanks for taking us along with you.
Did you sell your treehouse in Oakland?
I was wondering that as well! This is only a year away abroad right?
I’m wondering about the treehouse , too!
Came here to ask the same thing!
Ah the French system sounds very similar to the English system in terms of realtors (we call them estate agents) – when you decide to sell your house you pick an estate agent to represent you, advertise and show people around and negotiate a selling price. You can pick more than one but that’s quite uncommon.
The difference seems to be that it’s easier for potential buyers to find property here because they would use a website like Rightmove, which effectively aggregates everything that’s on the market so you can see it all in one list, regardless of who is marketing the property – and filter according to price, size and location, set up alerts etc. If you want to do some fantasy house shopping’s Rightmove is the place!
So excited to see which house you choose, they all look so lovely.
Rightmove is my guilt pleasure! 😉
I am also partial to the gorgeous Modern House for serious day dreaming!
wow! so fun to follow along! In town for the win! It will give your teen and tweens so much more freedom as they get to know their new town, country, and friends. I bet they’ll have wonderful memories of walking or scootering down ancient French streets on their way to swim team or whatever.
I love reading about your experience. I’ve spent the last year planning to buy land and build in both Mallorca and near Tarragona in Spain. Although I’m sure some parts of the process are different, so far your experience has been very similar.
Word to the wise: get a good lawyer to help negotiate on your behalf. At least in Spain, they are your advocate to get the price down, ensure no hidden traps, etc.
Good luck with your journey!
My guess is, being France, that the process with the mortgage broker is probably a lot of red tape and slower than one might think. Best of luck with your search though!
so happy for you, how exciting!
Did you sell your house in Oakland? What prompted the sudden move?
How exciting! While I agree the country houses have an off-the-chart charm quotient, the in-town options would give you a flexibility that would be great (and they still sound charming!).
This is like watching your International House Hunters show again, Part Deux! I can’t wait to see what you get. Good luck!
Dear Gabby, have you try to go to the agencies of “notaires”? They also list houses and there could be some good deals (when people inherit of a property for instance and want to sell it fast). Good luck!
So excited to see what you choose! love that herringbone flooring! Oh la la!
Love the report!! Good luck with all of it!
I’ve been back in the US after living in the French speaking part of Switzerland for four years (and I know it is a different situation) but I lived in the center of a smaller city and LOVED that lifestyle. Not to be bound by a car for most things, relying mostly on public transport and my feet was such a great way to experience life. It had its challenges, but I wouldn’t change it. I did experience living 15 minutes outside of town for the first and last 3 months I was there (so 6 months in total) and really felt more isolated there. In town it was easier to meet people and feel a part of the fabric of a place. Just my two cents!
I am so delighted that your family is back in France!! My favorite Design Mom journeys have been while you were living there. I cannot wait to hear more.
Me too! Bring back the series on gifts you can buy at the grocery store! I loved those posts!
So many fun options! I can’t wait to see what you choose!
I would recommend to check the houses at the Notaires. They list houses too.
I would point out somethings to you, since we’ve recently bought a house and I work at a City Hall.
1) It’s a very good idea to use a Conseillère (or courtier), it will cost you around 1000€ but they do all the heavy lifting on paper work, negociating with banks, all the appointments and that’s a lot of work. They will really look after your best interests and not the bank’s.
2) The credit for buying a house is in a historical low in France, so if you want to buy using credit from banks, this is the moment. But rentals are also a good idea. It really depends on how long you plan to stay and what will you use the house for if you leave France again.
3) If you have to do some work at the house, as you surely know with your other property, there is the “prior statement” (déclaration préalable) and the building permit (permis de construire) which can take some time to get instructed and accepted. Finally if you are in the perimeter of buildings that are classified and listed as the historical heritage of the French buildings (Inscrit et classé aux Bâtiments de France), the building permit may take 3 months and there are many restrictions on the material and colors you can use. So the house near the church might be one of those.
I hope this helps a little. We can exchange more privately, if you’d like.
Love hearing all the detailsl! I’m curious what kind of visas you obtained to live there and purchase real estate. I’m assuming neither of you are locally employed, but not sure. Keep the updates coming, I’m loving them! Good luck to you guys.
The small place is probably not a good fit for you. We went from 3 baths to 2.5 as our daughters hit peak teen years. ugh. We will not have less than 3 again. We need to host family as we don’t live near any and we need our own comfort for the day to day. Buying a house is not actually fun. It’s a huge financial and lifestyle decision. Houses in Normandy look fabulous, but why are they going so cheaply? Really low birth rate? No jobs and everyone moving urban….
Moving abroad, especially to France, has been a lifelong dream of mine. I would love to know how the language piece is going for you—do you find you need translation help during this process? Do the realtors speak any English? I guess what I’m wondering is if a family needs to be fluent to make this happen! (I’d love to hear from anyone else in the comments who’s done this…it seems like a few of you have)
hi, im wondering why you didn’t choose to get your country house renovated enough for you to stay there?
I’m so eager to hear more about this exciting new chapter! I’m in the Bay Area so I can’t quite believe what amazing properties you can buy there for a relatively low amount. The differences in the whole process are fascinating so thank you for sharing.
I wanted to echo two of the questions from previous posters, though:
1) What did you end up doing with the Tree House?
2) Why aren’t you renovating and moving into your cottage (which I hope we get to see more of!)?
vous êtes à lisieux ou orbec? st martin de la lieue ?
mes parents habitent à livarot, la normandie me manque en ce moment !!!!
bon courage pour tous vos travaux !